The tile is up, or a second layer of backer board went on, and now the shower valve sits too deep behind the wall. The trim sleeve does not reach, the handle will not seat, or the screws come up short. Most makers sell shower valve extension kits for exactly this, but each kit is made for one valve family, not for a brand. This page shows how to measure the gap, how to find the family and trim in your wall, and which kit each maker lists. It also covers the cases where the maker says no kit exists.
Measure First: Is the Valve Really Too Deep?
Compare the finished wall to the maker’s rough-in reference, not to a guess about the handle gap. The logic from the makers’ pages is simple. If the valve is inside its rough-in range, no extension should be needed. If it is too deep but within what the exact kit adds, use that kit. If it is deeper than the kit covers, or the maker says no kit exists, the reliable repair is to reset the valve rather than stack mismatched extenders.
The reference point differs by maker, so use the numbers for your valve only:
- Delta: in an answer on its 17 Series extension kit page, Delta says the distance from the stringer to the front of the black plaster guard is 2-3/4 in. plus or minus 1/4 in., and that this is the same distance to the finished wall (Delta: RP77992 questions and answers).
- Moen Posi-Temp: Moen’s rough-in instructions show a range of 2-1/4 in. minimum to 3-1/2 in. maximum, with the plaster ground flush with the finished wall.
- Kohler Rite-Temp: trim specs commonly say to use a deep roughing-in kit when finished-wall depth is over 3-1/2 in. and up to 4-1/4 in., for the trim and valve contexts those specs list.
- Gerber Treysta: for standard wall construction, the instructions say the plaster guard should be flush with the interior finished wall.
- Symmons Temptrol: the spec sheet gives a rough-in of 2-3/8 in. plus or minus 1/2 in.
The research did not find base rough-in ranges for American Standard R110/R120 or Flash/TU valves, so do not borrow another brand’s number for them. Use the installation sheet for your specific rough-in valve.
Identify the Valve Family and the Trim Series
Identify two things: the valve in the wall and the trim on it. Choosing by brand alone, or even by rough-in body alone, is a common mistake. Delta says its R10000 extension-kit choice depends on the trim series. Moen’s FAQ picks by valve type, handle operation, trim family, finish and sometimes date. Kohler’s chart picks by trim design and valve family.
Some tells help:
- Moen: Posi-Temp rotates only and controls temperature. Moentrol pushes and pulls as well as rotating, and controls volume plus temperature. M-CORE U130/U140 uses lift-and-rotate operation and controls volume plus temperature.
- Delta: in an answer on its RP77991 page, Delta says the 14 Series cartridge that kit fits is RP46074, which has two flat sides on the stem, and that the 17 Series cartridge RP46463 also has flat sides on the stem and does not use that kit (Delta: RP77991 questions and answers). So do not pick a kit by the shape of the stem. Go by trim series or model number.
- Delta integrated diverters: the 24, 27 and 27T Series map to different integrated-diverter kits, so the R22000 rough-in alone is not enough.
- Gerber: Treysta is its own family. Gerber says Treysta cartridges look different from earlier ones and warns against installing a new Treysta cartridge in an old rough-in valve body.
For the wider hunt, see our guides to which shower trim kits fit your valve and to identifying a Delta, Moen, Kohler, Pfister, American Standard, Symmons, Grohe or Gerber shower valve.
Shower Valve Extension Kits: The Chart
Every row below comes from the maker’s own page or spec. The chart narrows the field. It is not a promise of fit, so confirm the part number on the maker’s page against your model and trim before ordering.
| Maker | Valve family or trim context | Kit | Depth added | Watch for |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Delta | 13/14 Series tub/shower, current MultiChoice/R10000 trim | RP77991 | Wall thickness up to 1-3/4 in. | Do not read this as “all 1400 Series”; confirm model and trim |
| Delta | 17 Series tub/shower | RP77992 | Wall thickness up to 1-3/4 in. | Separate from 17T |
| Delta | TempAssure 17T | RP75136 | Check Delta’s current instruction sheet | 17T only |
| Delta | 3- and 6-setting separate diverter (R11000-T118 context) | RP75137 | 1 in. | Not the R22000 integrated-diverter family |
| Delta | MultiChoice integrated diverter, 24 Series, R22000 | RP90542 | 1 in.; for wall thickness over 1-1/8 in. up to 2-1/8 in. | Integrated, not separate, diverter |
| Delta | MultiChoice integrated diverter, 27 Series, R22000 | RP90543 | 1 in. | Delta makes no longer integrated-diverter extension |
| Delta | MultiChoice integrated diverter, 27T Series, R22000 | RP90544 | For wall thickness over 1-1/8 in. up to 2-1/8 in. | 27T TempAssure only |
| Moen | Original single-handle valve (push/pull and rotate, introduced 1964) | 10399 chrome, 99503 polished brass | 1 in. | Not Posi-Temp, Moentrol or M-CORE |
| Moen | Moentrol | 137347 or 193112 | 1 in. | 193112 is for named trim families such as Flara, Doux, Arris, Weymouth and Align |
| Moen | Posi-Temp | 96945, 96858 or 193114; 96955 or 96868 where 2 in. is allowed | 1 in. or 2 in. | The 2 in. kit is not allowed for several named trims |
| Moen | M-CORE U130/U140 | 200755, 200779, 200780 or 200781 | 1 in. | Use Moen’s model-number list to pick |
| Kohler | Rite-Temp valves K-304, K-305, K-11748, K-306 and K-2971 | Kit chosen by trim design | Some specs cover 3-1/2 in. to 4-1/4 in. finished-wall depth | Kohler says some kits are not interchangeable |
| Kohler | Rite-Temp K-8304 / K-8305 and K-28305 cartridge families | K-10350-NA | 3/4 in. | Support page names K-8304; the spec says all trims for K-8305 and K-28305 cartridges |
| Pfister | Single-control tub/shower, non-SecurePfit trims | 910-563A/K/U/Y | 7/8 in. | Not for SecurePfit |
| American Standard | R110/R120 rough valves, single-control pressure-balance trim | M961818-0020A | 3/4 in. | Not Flash/TU |
| American Standard | Flash rough-in valves with TU Series pressure-balance trim | M970649 | 3/4 in. | Includes two 4 in. screws plus a handle-adaptor screw |
| American Standard | R422/R433 diverter valves | 963554 | Maximum 3/4 in. | A diverter extension, not for a pressure-balance mixer |
| Symmons | Temptrol | TA-10-EXT-KIT | Depth not found | Spindle extension, longer handle screws, diverter/volume-control extension, longer escutcheon screws |
| Symmons | Safetymix / Visu-Temp | C-5-EXT-KIT | Depth not found | Listed for Safetymix and Visu-Temp shower series valves |
| Gerber | Treysta valves, with or without diverter | D113001 (and BB, BN, BS finishes) | Exact added depth not found on Gerber’s pages | Treysta only, not universal Danze/Gerber |
| Grohe | GrohSafe 3.0 pressure-balance trims, rough-ins 35 110 through 35 116 | 49121000 | 3/4 in. | 35 114 is not sold in Canada |
Found your valve family and trim in a row above? Confirm the exact kit against the maker's page before you buy, because a brand name alone does not pick the kit:
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Three cautions on that chart. First, Moen’s M-CORE kit assignment is where its own pages disagree: the FAQ groups trims by family, while the separate model-number list places some Arris model numbers differently. So do not trust a trim-family name for M-CORE. Look up your exact model number in Moen’s M-CORE list.
Second, Delta’s RP75136 product page does not say how much depth the kit adds. Confirm against the current instruction sheet before ordering.
Third, Pfister also lists 970-0890 as a shower diverter extension kit for its 15 Series, but the page we reviewed did not state its added depth or contents.
If There Is No Kit for Your Valve
Sometimes the honest answer is that no kit fits. According to Delta’s RP75136 page, some units have no extension kit and require re-plumbing. Delta’s RP90543 page says it does not make a longer integrated-diverter extension when RP90543 is not enough.
Kohler says thermostatic trims do not offer deep roughing-in kits. They use short, medium and long K-joints included with the trim, and Kohler says there is no longer stem-extension option.
Moen says the 2 in. Posi-Temp kit is not an option for Doux, Flara, Colinet, 90 Degree, Bamboo, Felicity, Fina, Icon, Rothbury and Waterhill trims. Those use the named 1 in. path instead.
Be careful with Delta’s older valves. Delta’s pages say RP75136 will not work with a 144910-SS 1400 Series faucet and that Delta does not offer an extension for it. Yet RP77991 is described as fitting newer 1400 series valves. Both can be true if Delta uses the 1400 and 14 labels across different generations. So current 13/14 Series MultiChoice trims use RP77991, while some older 1400, ball-type or Foundation-style Delta units may have no kit and may need re-plumbing. One Delta page also says B112900C has no extension kit. Treat that as an edge case, not a rule for other Delta models.
The research found no maker statement that current Pfister, American Standard, Symmons, Gerber or Grohe single-handle families have no extension kit. That is “not found,” not “does not exist.”
When the exact kit is not enough, or the extension would change how the handle connects, the durable answer is to open the wall and reset the valve. If the valve is inside the wall and you are unsure, call a plumber before cutting. According to Moen’s Posi-Temp installation sheet, pressure-test and flush before closing the wall opening, and do not turn on the supplies before the instructions call for it, because debris can damage cartridge sealing surfaces or block the balancing spool.
The Opposite Fault: The Valve Sticks Out Too Far
A deep rough-in kit will not pull a valve backward. Delta’s answer for a valve outside the finished-wall dimensions in the outward direction is that a valve sticking out too far needs to be reinstalled.
Some makers do list separate shallow or thin-wall parts. Kohler’s Honesty spec warns that long trim screws can damage K-2971-KS in thin-wall situations and points to thin-wall kit 88526 where needed. A Gerber Treysta FAQ, seen on a mirror site, lists shallow-depth kit GA663B11/BB/BN/BS for all collections except Vaughn, Avian and Lemora, with shallow defined as 2-3/4 in. to 3 in. from the back of the valve body to the front of the plaster guard. For Moen, Pfister, American Standard, Symmons and Grohe, the research found no maker-named shallow-wall part. Use a maker-specified part where one exists, or reset the valve.
Aftermarket Kits and Stem Extenders
Retailer listings and “compatible with” kits show what exists in the field, but they should not override the maker’s fitment rules. One example is Kibi, which lists its own extension kit for Kibi models KSF403, KSF404, KSF405, KSF406, KSF408, KSF409, KSF412 and KSF413, with up to 7/8 in. of outward extension. It is not a cross-brand kit.
Danco sells a brass stem extension kit for Price Pfister faucets. Its listing says the kit provides additional length for tub and shower stems.
Two-handle and three-handle valves are a different category. They use stem extenders rather than the trim-family kits above. Pfister, for example, lists a Stem Extension Kit 910-005.
Follow the Manufacturer’s Sequence
Installation steps differ enough between makers that a generic “add a stem extender” instruction would mislead. Professional opinions vary on how to tackle a deep valve, so follow the sheet that comes with your exact kit.
What to Do Next
Measure the gap, find your valve family and trim series, and match them to the chart. If the maker lists no kit, or the kit is not enough, plan to reset the valve. For the wider picture, see our shower repair hub.
Is there one extension kit that fits any shower valve?
No. Makers sell kits by valve family, trim series, generation and sometimes finish, so the brand alone does not pick the kit.
Will Delta RP77991 fit my 1400 Series valve?
Delta lists RP77991 for its 13/14 Series with current MultiChoice trim. Some older 1400-style Delta units have no kit, so confirm your model and trim on Delta’s page.
Can I use a deep rough-in kit when the valve sticks out too far?
No. A deep kit does not pull a valve backward. A valve that stands out too far has to be re-set, unless its maker lists a thin-wall or shallow-depth part for it.
Which Moen kit fits an M-CORE valve?
Moen lists 200755, 200779, 200780 and 200781 depending on the model. Because its family list and model-number list disagree for some trims, use Moen’s model-number list.
What if the maker says no kit exists?
Delta says some such units need re-plumbing. The reliable fix is to open the wall and reset the valve, or call a plumber.
Sources
- Delta: RP77991 Extension Kit
- Delta: RP77992 Extension Kit
- Delta: RP75136 Extension Kit
- Delta: RP75137 Extension Kit
- Delta: RP90542 Extension Kit
- Delta: RP90543 Extension Kit
- Delta: RP90544 Extension Kit
- Delta: R22000-WS
- Delta: RP77991 questions and answers
- Delta: RP77992 questions and answers
- Moen: Rough-in valve installed too far back, extension kit FAQ
- Moen: M-CORE Shower Extension Kit List by Model Number
- Moen: INS1997 instruction sheet
- Moen: Posi-Temp installation sheet (INS1986)
- Kohler: Deep Roughing-In Kits for Rite-Temp Valve Trim
- Kohler: Extension and Deep Roughing-In Kits for Faucets
- Kohler: K-10350 spec
- Kohler: Refina spec
- Kohler: Honesty spec
- Pfister: 910-563 spec
- Pfister: 970-0890 Shower Diverter Extension Kit
- Pfister: 910-005 spec
- American Standard: M961818 Deep Rough-In Kit
- American Standard: M970649 Deep Rough-In Kit
- American Standard: 963554 Diverter Extension Kit
- Symmons: Temptrol repair parts
- Symmons: C-5-EXT-KIT
- Symmons: Temptrol spec sheet
- Gerber: Treysta compatibility
- Gerber: Treysta installation instructions
- Gerber: Treysta FAQ mirror
- Grohe: 49121000 GrohSafe 3.0 Extension Kit
- Kibi: Shower Valve Extension Kit
- Danco: Brass Stem Extension Kit for Price Pfister Faucets
- Danco: 2016 catalog
Educational content only. Not a substitute for licensed professional advice. Local plumbing codes vary by jurisdiction. Use of any guidance from this guide is at your own risk.
Parts for this repair
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- Delta RP77991 Extension Kit (search by part number) — Delta lists RP77991 for its 13/14 Series tub and shower valve with current MultiChoice trim, for wall thickness up to 1-3/4 in. Confirm your model and trim series on Delta's page before you order, because Delta also sells a separate kit for the 17 Series.
- Pfister 910-563 Extension Kit (search by part number) — Pfister's spec sheet limits 910-563 to single-control tub and shower valves with non-SecurePfit trims, and lists it at 7/8 in. of added depth. It is not for SecurePfit trims. The same sheet lists four finish versions (910-563A, K, U and Y), so check the letter against your trim's finish before you order.